OT: The Hidalgo Hoax

[Jonah Falcon]

http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm

Jonah Falcon

[Matthew Patton]

As if we needed further evidence that Michael Eisner should try and find
another studio to ruin . . .

Post by Jonah Falcon
http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm
Jonah Falcon

[Fish Eye no Miko]

Matthew Patton wrote:

[Fish Eye no Miko]

Post by Jonah Falcon
http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm

Wow! A movie based on someone's life doesn't feature the absolute,
unblemished truth?
I'm SHOCKED!
Whatever.
BTW, I saw this today. It was... ok. I'd rent it on DVD just to watch
Viggo some more.

Catherine Johnson, who thought the whole "kidnapping the princess" subplot
was just lame.

[Jonah Falcon]

Post by Fish Eye no Miko

Post by Jonah Falcon
http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm

Wow! A movie based on someone's life doesn't feature the absolute,
unblemished truth?
I'm SHOCKED!
Whatever.
BTW, I saw this today. It was... ok. I'd rent it on DVD just to watch
Viggo some more.

Um, it's pure fiction. It's not based on a true story.

Hopkins was NOT half-Native American.

Hopkins was never a part of Buffalo Bill Cody's show.

Hopkins never went to Arabia.

There's no such thing as the Great Beduin Race.

In fact, there's no evidence Hopkins ever knew how to ride a horse!

Jonah Falcon

[FilmCritic3000]

Post by Jonah Falcon
Um, it's pure fiction. It's not based on a true story.
Hopkins was NOT half-Native American.
Hopkins was never a part of Buffalo Bill Cody's show.
Hopkins never went to Arabia.
There's no such thing as the Great Beduin Race.
In fact, there's no evidence Hopkins ever knew how to ride a horse!
Jonah Falcon

That's it! Jonah is Kevin McCarthy from "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers", just
more in your face.

Jason
("THE MOVIE IS BAD!!! YOU'VE GOT TO BELIEVE ME!!!")
MST#16103


"The TV, she talks to me/Breaking news and building walls/Selling me what I
don't need/I didn't knew soap made you taller."

Pearl Jam, "Ghost", from their 2002 album Riot Act

[Fory-san]

Post by FilmCritic3000
That's it! Jonah is Kevin McCarthy from "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers", just
more in your face.

lol Despite the fact he probably hasn't even seen the actual movie yet.

-Fory-san, The Former Mysterious Lurker

"Short of tranquilizer-guns, there is no way of stopping pompous politicians
who are determined to make speeches."~~Arthur C. Clarke


http://www.carm.org/index/Jesus_saves.htm

[Jonah Falcon]

Post by Fory-san

Post by FilmCritic3000
That's it! Jonah is Kevin McCarthy from "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers", just
more in your face.

lol Despite the fact he probably hasn't even seen the actual movie yet.

Yes I have. I'm SAG Film Society - I often get to see movies a few weeks
prior to release, in fact.

Nice try.

Jonah Falcon

[Fory-san]

Post by Fish Eye no Miko

Post by Jonah Falcon
http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm

Wow! A movie based on someone's life doesn't feature the absolute,
unblemished truth?
I'm SHOCKED!
Whatever.

There's a difference between honest-to-God history and great entertainment. I
mean, you have to have artistic integrity with any movie. If people want the
true story, watch a documentary. There's a really good one about it on the
History Channel now from what my brother told me.

Post by Fish Eye no Miko
BTW, I saw this today. It was... ok. I'd rent it on DVD just to watch
Viggo some more.

My mom and brother want to see the film too. And you're not the only one who
wants to watch him more. My sister loves Viggo Mortensen ever since she saw the
first LOTR movie. I guess she likes rugged lookin' guys (of course, I never
knew this).


-Fory-san, The Former Mysterious Lurker

"Short of tranquilizer-guns, there is no way of stopping pompous politicians
who are determined to make speeches."~~Arthur C. Clarke


http://www.carm.org/index/Jesus_saves.htm

[Jonah Falcon]

Yeah, but the movie is still awful ANYWAY. If you're going to make something
up...

It took the worst parts of Black Beauty and The Last Samurai and smooshed
them together. What else do you expect from John Fusco and Joe Johnston,
though?

Jonah Falcon

[Stephen Cooke]

Post by Fory-san

Post by Fish Eye no Miko

Post by Jonah Falcon
http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm

Wow! A movie based on someone's life doesn't feature the absolute,
unblemished truth?
I'm SHOCKED!
Whatever.

There's a difference between honest-to-God history and great entertainment. I
mean, you have to have artistic integrity with any movie. If people want the
true story, watch a documentary. There's a really good one about it on the
History Channel now from what my brother told me.

Post by Fish Eye no Miko
BTW, I saw this today. It was... ok. I'd rent it on DVD just to watch
Viggo some more.

My mom and brother want to see the film too. And you're not the only one who
wants to watch him more. My sister loves Viggo Mortensen ever since she saw the
first LOTR movie. I guess she likes rugged lookin' guys (of course, I never
knew this).

She should start hanging out at the Armand Assante Clinic for Smouldering
Intensity.

swac
Thank you JS!

[Doug Elrod]

Post by Fory-san
There's a difference between honest-to-God history and great entertainment. I
mean, you have to have artistic integrity with any movie. If people want the
true story, watch a documentary. There's a really good one about it on the
History Channel now from what my brother told me.

Yes, they'll probably repeat it at some point, I imagine. Judging from
their research, there apparently actually *was* a person named Frank
Hopkins.

-Doug Elrod (***@cornell.edu) :-)

[Stephen Cooke]

Post by Fish Eye no Miko

Post by Jonah Falcon
http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm

Wow! A movie based on someone's life doesn't feature the absolute,
unblemished truth?
I'm SHOCKED!
Whatever.
BTW, I saw this today. It was... ok. I'd rent it on DVD just to watch
Viggo some more.
Catherine Johnson, who thought the whole "kidnapping the princess" subplot
was just lame.

When you're stealing plot elements from Braveheart, you know you're in
trouble. Like having you're protagonist endlessly tortured in front of a
gathered crowd until he finally dies in an angonized cry for....

swac
But I've already said too much.

[George Johnson]

"Stephen Cooke" <***@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.1040306100314.21551F-***@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca.
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|
| On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Fish Eye no Miko wrote:
|
| > > Jonah Falcon wrote:
| > >
| > >> http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm
| >
| > Wow! A movie based on someone's life doesn't feature the absolute,
| > unblemished truth?
| > I'm SHOCKED!
| > Whatever.
| > BTW, I saw this today. It was... ok. I'd rent it on DVD just to watch
| > Viggo some more.
| >
| > Catherine Johnson, who thought the whole "kidnapping the princess"
subplot
| > was just lame.
|
| When you're stealing plot elements from Braveheart, you know you're in
| trouble. Like having you're protagonist endlessly tortured in front of a
| gathered crowd until he finally dies in an angonized cry for....

Cherry-Flavored Milk Duds?

| swac
| But I've already said too much.

--- Better than shooting lightning bolts out of your behind.

[Andrew]

"Fish Eye no Miko" <***@deadmoon.circus> wrote in message news:_fa2c.9003$***@fed1read05...
: > Jonah Falcon wrote:
: >
: >> http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm
:
: Wow! A movie based on someone's life doesn't feature the absolute,
: unblemished truth?
: I'm SHOCKED!
: Whatever.
: BTW, I saw this today. It was... ok. I'd rent it on DVD just to watch
: Viggo some more.

You know, if I'm any actor involved with the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I'd take
a good year away from making any movies. I'm not saying that was as good as you
can get, but I'd think they'd want to rest on their laurels/swiss bank accounts
for a wee smigen.

:
: Catherine Johnson, who thought the whole "kidnapping the princess" subplot
: was just lame.

---Andrew Kunz. "Subplot filed under, 'It's so lame, it's gotta to be true!'"

[Fish Eye no Miko]

Post by Andrew

Post by Fish Eye no Miko
BTW, I saw this today. It was... ok. I'd rent it on DVD just to
watch Viggo some more.

You know, if I'm any actor involved with the Lord of the Rings
trilogy, I'd take a good year away from making any movies. I'm not
saying that was as good as you can get, but I'd think they'd want
to rest on their laurels/swiss bank accounts for a wee smigen.

A few of the LotR actors are in movies this year, actually... Bloom did
Pirates and is in the upcoming _Ned Kelly_. Wood is in _The Eternal
Sunshine of a Spotless Mind_, and Astin is in... _50 First Dates_, I think
Some comedy like that...
I think some actors just like acting... ^_^

Post by Andrew

Post by Fish Eye no Miko
Catherine Johnson, who thought the whole "kidnapping the princess"
subplot was just lame.

---Andrew Kunz. "Subplot filed under, 'It's so lame, it's gotta to be true!'"

Nah, it's actually a pretty standard plot... it just didn't thrill me.

Catherine Johnson. More Viggo and his horse, dammit!

[Robert Hutchinson]

Andrew says...

Post by Andrew
You know, if I'm any actor involved with the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I'd take
a good year away from making any movies. I'm not saying that was as good as you
can get, but I'd think they'd want to rest on their laurels/swiss bank accounts
for a wee smigen.

What about the lesser-known actors from the trilogy? I'd think they ought
to strike while the iron is hot, because it almost certainly will never
be that hot again.

[Bruce Probst]

Post by Jonah Falcon
http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm

Oh, come on. Next you'll be telling me that LOTR was based on a fictional
story, too.

(And the last time that Hollywood told an autobiographical story that was
the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth was ....?)

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Melbourne, Australia MSTie #72759
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[Jonah Falcon]

Um, New Line isn't saying LOTR is based on a true story. In fact, one Disney
official has said ON THE RECORD that everything in Hidalgo is bunk, but
they're not going to change the "Based on a true story" tag.

Jonah Falcon

Post by Jonah Falcon
http://www.thelongridersguild.com/hopkins.htm

Oh, come on. Next you'll be telling me that LOTR was based on a fictional
story, too.

(And the last time that Hollywood told an autobiographical story that was
the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth was ....?)

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Bruce Probst ***@netspace.net.au
Melbourne, Australia MSTie #72759
"It's like a Warhol movie, only kind of weird."
ASL FAQ http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/mantis/ASLFAQ

[Stephen Cooke]

Post by Jonah Falcon
Um, New Line isn't saying LOTR is based on a true story. In fact, one Disney
official has said ON THE RECORD that everything in Hidalgo is bunk, but
they're not going to change the "Based on a true story" tag.

Hell, Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights starts with a "Based on factual events"
tag at the start.

swac
Best laugh I've had in ages.

[Robert Hutchinson]

Stephen Cooke says...

Post by Stephen Cooke
Hell, Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights starts with a "Based on factual events"
tag at the start.

That was before Castro outlawed nights in Havana.

[Stephen Cooke]

Post by Robert Hutchinson
Stephen Cooke says...

Post by Stephen Cooke
Hell, Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights starts with a "Based on factual events"
tag at the start.

That was before Castro outlawed nights in Havana.

Hey, when nights are outlawed, only outlaws will have nights.

swac
Me, I prefer to work days.

[Freezer]

If I don't respond to this Stephen Cooke post, the terrorists win.

Post by Stephen Cooke

Post by Robert Hutchinson
Stephen Cooke says...

Post by Stephen Cooke
Hell, Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights starts with a "Based on
factual events" tag at the start.

That was before Castro outlawed nights in Havana.

Hey, when nights are outlawed, only outlaws will have nights.
swac
Me, I prefer to work days.

I work nights, and I vote!
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Post by Stephen Cooke

Post by Jonah Falcon
Um, New Line isn't saying LOTR is based on a true story.
In fact, one Disney official has said ON THE RECORD
that everything in Hidalgo is bunk, but they're not going
to change the "Based on a true story" tag.

Hell, Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights starts with a "Based
on factual events" tag at the start.

Doesn't _Texas Chainsaw Massacre_, as well? The original did.
And if the new one did, did you complain about that, Jonah?

Catherine Johnson.

[Andrew]

"Stephen Cooke" <***@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message news:Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.1040306100558.21551G-***@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca...
:
: On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Jonah Falcon wrote:
:
: > Um, New Line isn't saying LOTR is based on a true story. In fact, one Disney
: > official has said ON THE RECORD that everything in Hidalgo is bunk, but
: > they're not going to change the "Based on a true story" tag.
:
: Hell, Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights starts with a "Based on factual events"
: tag at the start.

Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights? Since when did Patrick Swayze adopt a Cuban
accent?

---Andrew "Or was that a Canadian accent?" Kunz.

[Stephen Cooke]

Post by Andrew
: > Um, New Line isn't saying LOTR is based on a true story. In fact, one Disney
: > official has said ON THE RECORD that everything in Hidalgo is bunk, but
: > they're not going to change the "Based on a true story" tag.
: Hell, Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights starts with a "Based on factual events"
: tag at the start.
Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights? Since when did Patrick Swayze adopt a Cuban
accent?

The funny thing is, DD:HN is supposed to take place before the events of
the first DD, but Swayze looks much older, so in the credits he's listed
simply as "Visiting Dance Instructor".

Oh, the shame...

Post by Andrew
---Andrew "Or was that a Canadian accent?" Kunz.

swac
Stompin' Tom already had the rights to Dirty Dancing: Sudbury Saturday
Nights.